Comments: 8
Debbie's Spurts 3 years ago
Sheesh, that kick out was uncalled for. I found Alaska Liz often a way too peppy cheerleader for goodreads given to frequently outright attacking anyone daring to contradict anything she found on the oh so perfect site -- I think she's the only I ever heard claim that even goodreads recommendations were always perfect for her -- with many of the attacks frankly ones I would accept as grounds for kicking her out. Often actually helpful when she tried to be and actually knew something about the subject rather than burying under goodreads cheerleading and as often clueless while stubbornly refusing to admit it (for example, she is still utterly convinced kindle devices read ePub format although I'm not sure why she's invested in that stance unless had decided to also cheerlead for Amazon?).

Plenty of times she should have been contradicted by staff, had threads closed, or otherwise made to shut up. Plenty of times they should have taken action -- over this is petty and ridiculous.


About as petty and ridiculous as the long unheard from Otis deciding to weigh in on this thread. As if we cannot tell it's another seeded thread planted by Amazon hires.
Geez. I really hate having to drag out Otis's own statements from way back when on censorship, but ...

"I hope you'll appreciate that if we just start deleting ratings whenever we feel like it, that we've gone down a censorship road that doesn't take us to a good place.”


"A value we've always had here is that we don't censor content (unless it's against our policies - eg porn)"

So much for not censoring content, huh? (And no, I never liked Alaska Liz, either.)
Tannat 3 years ago
I'm a little shocked...
Debbie's Spurts 3 years ago
I really didn't read anything that should have gotten her kicked out -- although possible the problem comment got deleted my staff. Probably very paranoid or least cynical and suspicious of me to think that goodreads is already in the process -- by choice or by Amazon mandate -- of adding this feature. Maybe I should have waited until the game that brings me back to goodreads sporadically finishes up before commenting.

The @ feature just sounds like could be implemented in a way to bypass the privacy controls of goodreads inbox, let authors grab our attention or even to potentially spam out to profiles, to update feed, as a way to drum up the troops to try to like up a review, as a way for the circle jerks to get each other's attention that a review posted, ...
I don't recall seeing a comment that got deleted there, but I might have missed it. (I've been following that thread fairly closely.)
Sheesh. I really hate the idea of making an @person notification on GR, or anything making it more like Twitter (or FB for that matter). And I know I'm not alone in that, I've seen others express that too. Really stinks how unresponsive GR has become, and how intolerant of user opinions.

And that's speaking as one that is typically annoyed at Alaska Liz too. ;)
As a group moderator, I already get enough spam from authors looking for some free promotion. I see an @ feature as another way for those authors to annoy me.

That aside, I was not an Alaska Liz fan either. I have had several issues with the way things work or glitches using GRs. I always avoided posting in the feedback group because I didn't want to deal with her. However, if this was the reason she was booted from the group, it's a non-issue. That being said, I'd like a little more confirmation than just "she told me it was true". She's made potentially thousands of comments on various threads in that group. Any of those comments could have got her booted with the most recent just being the last straw.
Debbie's Spurts 3 years ago
I think she was by now kind of an institution -- annoying enough I had her blocked, but weird to see her kicked out of group (I had also rather assumed that if you did something bad enough to get kicked out of the helpdesk / knowledgebase part of the site that it was bad enough to get you kicked off goodreads completely; others have had accounts completely deleted for way less).

I dropped out of feedback group again myself (I drop back in when I am having a bug issue like the current shelf counts) so haven't commented anymore.

I almost dropped back in to cheer the one comment from someone saying they bet that if implemented we would probably not be able to @ goodreads staff back to threads ...